Literacy Listens
Literacy Listens is a short-form podcast that explores listening comprehension and its role in reading development. Each episode makes research actionable with practical strategies to help educators build strong readers.
Literacy Listens is a short-form podcast that explores listening comprehension and its role in reading development. Each episode makes research actionable with practical strategies to help educators build strong readers.
Episodes

Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Episode 13 Literacy Listens: A Multicomponent Approach
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Thursday Jan 08, 2026
Episode 13: A Multicomponent Approach
In the final episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian discuss why listening comprehension cannot be addressed through a single strategy. Drawing on research and classroom examples, they outline a multicomponent approach that integrates lower- and higher-level listening comprehension skills.
The episode brings the series full circle by connecting theory to instructional decision making.
Key Takeaways
Listening comprehension consists of multiple interacting skills.
Vocabulary, grammar and syntax, inference, perspective taking, reasoning, comprehension monitoring, text structure awareness, and knowledge work together.
Strengthening one component supports others through indirect pathways.
Instruction should address multiple skills in coordinated ways.
Explicit instruction paired with meaningful listening comprehension tasks (read alouds, podcasts, audiobooks etc.) leads to stronger comprehension.
Listening comprehension supports reading comprehension across development.
What’s Next
This episode concludes the planned Literacy Listens series. Listeners are encouraged to continue exploring listening comprehension research and resources at listeningcomprehension.org.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
Cabell, S. Q., Justice, L. M., Konold, T. R., & McGinty, A. S. (2011). Profiles of emergent literacy skills among preschool children who are at risk for academic difficulties. Early Childhood Research Quarterly.
Language and Reading Research Consortium. (2017). Teaching language and comprehension through content-rich instruction: The Let’s Know! curriculum. Brookes Publishing.
Kim, Y.-S. G. (2016). Listening comprehension and reading comprehension (EdTalk, AERA Knowledge Forum) [Video]. YouTube.
Ed-Talk: Oral Language Begets Literacy - Young-Suk Kim
Young-Suk Grace Kim. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469–491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Young-Suk Grace Kim. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the theoretical and practical landscape of reading development. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf
Reading for Understanding Initiative. (2016). Research synthesis on language-focused comprehension instruction. U.S. Department of Education.

Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Episode 12: Supporting Multilingual Learners Through Listening Comprehension
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian examine how listening comprehension supports multilingual learners as they develop language and literacy skills. They discuss why listening is a critical entry point for language development and how skills transfer across languages.
The episode emphasizes strengths multilingual learners bring to comprehension and the importance of intentional supports.
Key Takeaways
Listening comprehension is foundational for multilingual learners acquiring English.
Listening typically develops before speaking and provides access to rich language input.
Many language and comprehension skills transfer across languages.
Multilingual learners often demonstrate strong perspective taking and cognitive flexibility.
Intentional scaffolds help multilingual learners engage with complex oral language.
What’s Next
In the final episode of the series, Amber and Brian explore why listening comprehension instruction must be multicomponent and how skills work together in coordinated ways.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
August, D., & Shanahan, T. (2006). Developing literacy in second-language learners: Report of the National Literacy Panel on Language-Minority Children and Youth. Lawrence Erlbaum Associates.
Calderón, M. (2011). Teaching reading and comprehension to English learners, K–5. Corwin.
Grøver, V. (2019). Oral language comprehension in multilingual children. Child Development Perspectives.
Stephen Krashen. (1982). Principles and practice in second language acquisition. Pergamon Press.
Mancilla-Martinez, J. (2020). Language and reading comprehension in bilingual learners. Reading Research Quarterly.
Young-Suk Grace Kim, Crosson, A. C., & Hwang, H. (2022). Language and reading development in multilingual learners. Journal of Learning Disabilities.
WIDA. (2020). English language development standards framework. Board of Regents of the University of Wisconsin System.

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 11 Literacy Listens: Assessing Listening Comprehension
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 11:Assessing Listening Comprehension
In this episode, Amber and Brian focus on why and how listening comprehension should be assessed alongside word reading. They explain what listening comprehension assessments should measure, how they differ from reading comprehension assessments, and why early identification of listening comprehension needs is critical.
Listeners learn how assessment can inform instruction and help teachers better understand student strengths and needs.
Key Takeaways
Listening comprehension should be assessed using oral text, not written text.
Assessing listening comprehension helps identify students who may read fluently but struggle to understand.
Strong assessments examine both shallow comprehension and deeper comprehension.
Informal classroom questioning during read-alouds can provide meaningful assessment data.
Formal screeners and diagnostic tools can help identify specific areas of need.
Listening comprehension assessment supports more accurate instructional decisions for all students.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian explore how to support multilingual learners by strengthening listening comprehension.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Word Reading and Listening Comprehension 2x2 Matrix:
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
August, D., & Shanahan, T. (2006). Developing literacy in second-language learners: Report of the National Literacy Panel on Language-Minority Children and Youth. Lawrence Erlbaum Associates.
Institute of Education Sciences. (2020). Evaluation of North Carolina’s K–3 reading assessments. U.S. Department of Education.
Young-Suk Grace Kim. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469–491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Mancilla-Martinez, J. (2020). Language and reading comprehension in bilingual learners. Reading Research Quarterly.
Shanahan, T. (2017). What maze tests really measure. Shanahan on Literacy.

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 10 Literacy Listens: Zooming out: What've Learned About Listening Comprehension
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian pause to synthesize the big ideas from Episodes 1 through 9. Rather than introducing new content, this episode helps listeners step back and see how the components of listening comprehension fit together as a coherent system.
They revisit the idea that listening comprehension is hierarchical, interactive, and dynamic, and explain how foundational language skills and higher-level comprehension processes work together to support meaning making across development.
Key Takeaways
Listening comprehension is not a single skill but a network of interrelated abilities.
Vocabulary, grammar and syntax, inference, perspective taking, reasoning, comprehension monitoring, text structure awareness, and knowledge interact to support understanding.
These skills develop over time and influence comprehension differently as texts and tasks become more complex.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian explore how to assess listening comprehension, including informal classroom approaches and formal assessment tools.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469 to 491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 9 Literacy Listens: The Role of Knowledge
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 9: The Role of Knowledge
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian explore knowledge building and its essential role in listening comprehension and reading development.
They explain how knowledge supports comprehension by giving students context for what they hear and read, and how listening comprehension is also one of the primary ways students build knowledge. Using clear examples and research grounded explanations, the episode shows why comprehension depends not only on skills like word reading and vocabulary, but also on what students already know about the world.
Key Takeaways
Knowledge plays a critical role in comprehension by helping students make sense of new information.
The relationship between knowledge and listening comprehension is reciprocal. Students need knowledge to comprehend, and listening comprehension helps students build knowledge.
In the DIER framework, knowledge contributes to comprehension indirectly by supporting listening comprehension and related language skills.
There are multiple forms of knowledge that support comprehension, including background knowledge, disciplinary knowledge, linguistic and text structure knowledge, and discourse knowledge.
Discourse knowledge helps students track how ideas connect across sentences and paragraphs, supporting coherent meaning making.
Knowledge rich instruction that integrates language and content supports stronger listening comprehension than teaching skills in isolation.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian step back to reflect on Episodes 1 through 9, bringing the big ideas together and showing how listening comprehension skills work as an integrated system.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
(All sources below come directly from the Read Charlotte Knowledge Base and informed this episode.)
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469 to 491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf
Pearson, P. D., Palincsar, A. S., Biancarosa, G., and Berman, A. I. (2020). Reaping the Rewards of the Reading for Understanding Initiative. National Academy of Education. https://naeducation.org/reaping-the-rewards-of-the-reading-for-understanding-initiative/
Language and Reading Research Consortium. (2017). Teaching language comprehension through text focused instruction.(Referenced in the episode through the Reading for Understanding Initiative and the Let’s Know curriculum.)
Cabell, S. Q., and Hwang, H. (2020). Building content knowledge to boost comprehension in the primary grades. Reading Research Quarterly, 55(S1), S99 to S107. https://doi.org/10.1002/rrq.343

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 8 Literacy Listens: Organizing Meaning — Text Structure Awareness
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 8 Literacy Listens: Organizing Meaning — Text Structure Awareness
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian explore text structure awareness, a higher-level listening comprehension skill that helps students organize ideas, follow the logic of a text, and build coherent meaning from what they hear.
They explain how text structure supports comprehension by helping students recognize patterns such as problem and solution, cause and effect, and sequence. Through classroom examples and clear metaphors, the episode shows how noticing structure turns listening into an active meaning making process rather than passive hearing.
Key Takeaways
Text structure awareness is a higher-level listening comprehension skill that supports how students organize and connect ideas.
Even when text structure is not named explicitly in a model, it fits within the family of higher-level comprehension skills described in the DIER framework.
Recognizing patterns such as problem solution, cause and effect, and sequence helps students build a clearer mental model of a text.
Explicitly naming the structure before listening gives students a purpose and supports comprehension monitoring.
Modeling structure during read alouds helps students learn what to listen for and how ideas connect.
Because students can comprehend more complex oral language than print, listening is a powerful space for teaching text structure early.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian explore knowledge building and how what students already know shapes listening comprehension and supports deeper understanding across texts.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
(All sources below come directly from the Read Charlotte Knowledge Base and informed this episode.)
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469 to 491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf
Language and Reading Research Consortium. (2017). Teaching language comprehension through text focused instruction.(Referenced in the episode through the Reading for Understanding Initiative and the Let’s Know! curriculum.)

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 7: Noticing When Meaning Breaks Down — Comprehension MonitoringIn this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian explore comprehension monitoring, a higher-level listening comprehension skill that helps students notice when something does not make sense and take action to repair meaning.
Through classroom examples and everyday scenarios, they explain how comprehension monitoring shows up naturally in listening and why oral language is a powerful space for developing this skill. The conversation highlights how students learn to pause, question, and rethink meaning when ideas do not line up, and how these habits support later independent reading.
Key Takeaways
Comprehension monitoring is the ability to notice when meaning breaks down and decide what to do next.
Students begin developing this skill through listening, where teachers can model confusion and clarify meaning in real time.
Comprehension monitoring is a higher-level listening comprehension skill that works alongside inference, reasoning, vocabulary, and background knowledge.
Modeling moments of confusion aloud helps students learn what it sounds like to catch a breakdown in meaning.
Over time, students move from relying on teacher prompts to monitoring their own understanding independently.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian explore text structure and how understanding the organization of a text supports listening comprehension and meaning making.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
(All sources below come directly from the Read Charlotte Knowledge Base and informed this episode.)
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469 to 491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf
Justice, L. M., and Jiang, H. (2023). Language is the basis of skilled reading comprehension. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy.

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 6: Inference, Perspective Taking, and Reasoning — Unlocking Deeper Understanding
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian explore three interconnected higher-level listening comprehension skills: inference, perspective taking, and reasoning.
Using everyday examples and a detective metaphor, they show how students construct meaning when ideas are not stated directly. The conversation highlights how students gather clues from what they hear, draw on background knowledge, and use reasoning to connect ideas, understand others’ thoughts and motivations, and make sense of deeper meaning.
Grounded in research curated by Read Charlotte, this episode explains how these skills develop, how they work together, and why explicit modeling and talk around text are essential for supporting students’ comprehension.
Key Takeaways
Inference involves constructing meaning beyond what is explicitly stated by connecting clues from what is heard with background knowledge.
Perspective taking helps students understand others’ thoughts, feelings, beliefs, intentions, and motivations and does not always develop automatically without support.
Reasoning supports both inference and perspective taking by helping students evaluate evidence, connect ideas, and decide what makes the most sense.
These skills are hierarchical: foundational language skills like vocabulary, grammar, and syntax support higher-level meaning-making.
They are also interactive: strong vocabulary and background knowledge actively make inferencing and reasoning easier in the moment.
Explicit instruction and modeling—making thinking visible through talk—help students shift from searching for answers to actively constructing meaning.
Rich discussion and purposeful talk around text give students opportunities to practice inference, perspective taking, and reasoning aloud.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian explore comprehension monitoring—how students learn to notice when meaning breaks down and use strategies to repair their understanding.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlottehttps://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI-generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
Young-Suk Grace Kim (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469–491.https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development. In Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy.https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 5 Literacy Listens: Building the Foundation — Vocabulary, Grammar, and Syntax
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian focus on the foundational language skills that sit at the base of listening comprehension: vocabulary, grammar, and syntax.
Through classroom examples and practical teaching moves, they explore how students can hear the same sentence yet struggle for very different reasons and why these lower-level language skills are essential for comprehension. The conversation highlights how intentional instruction and rich language experiences help students build the foundation that makes higher-level comprehension skills possible.
Key Takeaways
Vocabulary, grammar, and syntax are foundational listening comprehension skills, not optional add-ons.
Students may struggle with comprehension because they don’t know a word—or because they can’t track how a sentence is structured.
Research supports teaching a small number of high-utility (Tier 2) words deeply, rather than many words superficially.
Meaningful interaction with words, using child-friendly definitions, examples, and repeated exposure helps students truly “own” new vocabulary.
Grammar and syntax instruction works best when embedded in real sentences and oral language, not isolated drills.
These lower-level skills make higher-level skills like inference, reasoning, and perspective-taking possible.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian move beyond foundational language skills to explore inference, a higher-level listening comprehension skill, and the role of reasoning in helping students construct meaning when ideas are not stated explicitly.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte — https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI-generated.Script developed with AI technology support.Content reflects research curated by Read Charlotte.
Research References
(All sources below come directly from the Read Charlotte Listening Comprehension Knowledge Base and informed this episode.)
Beck, I. L., McKeown, M. G., & Kucan, L. (2013).Bringing Words to Life: Robust Vocabulary Instruction (2nd ed.).New York, NY: Guilford Press.
Justice, L. M., & Jiang, H. (2023).Language is the basis of skilled reading comprehension.Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy.
Kim, Y. S. (2020a).Simple but not simplistic: The Simple View of Reading unpacked and expanded.The Reading League, May/June, 15–22.https://www.thereadingleague.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/TRLSimpleViewofReading.pdf
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020b).Hierarchical and dynamic relations of language and cognitive skills to reading comprehension: Testing the direct and indirect effects model of reading (DIER).Journal of Educational Psychology, 112(4), 667–684.https://doi.org/10.1037/edu0000407
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023).Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development.Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy.https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf

Monday Jan 05, 2026
Monday Jan 05, 2026
Episode 4: Unpacking Listening Comprehension — An Orchestra of Skills
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian zoom in on listening comprehension, one of the two central pillars in Dr. Young-Suk Grace Kim’s Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER).
Using classroom examples and a musical metaphor, they explore listening comprehension as a dynamic system of interconnected language skills—not a single ability—and explain why these skills deserve explicit, sustained attention from the very beginning of reading instruction and beyond.
Listeners will hear how vocabulary, grammar, inference, reasoning, perspective-taking, comprehension monitoring, and text structure awareness work together to support meaning-making—and why listening comprehension continues to drive reading comprehension long after word reading becomes automatic.
Key Takeaways
Listening comprehension is a network of lower- and higher-level skills, not a single skill.
These skills begin developing before children can read independently and continue growing across schooling.
As word reading becomes fluent, listening comprehension becomes the strongest driver of reading comprehension.
Research supports a multicomponent instructional approach, teaching listening comprehension skills together within meaningful content rather than in isolation.
All students benefit from language-rich instruction alongside word reading; support should be differentiated without trade-offs.
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian take a closer look at vocabulary, grammar, and syntax and how these foundational language skills support listening comprehension and meaning making.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte — https://www.readcharlotte.org
Production Notes
Voices are AI-generated.Script developed with AI technology support.Content reflects research curated by Read Charlotte.
References:
Cabell, S. Q., & Hwang, H. (2020).Building content knowledge to boost comprehension in the primary grades.Reading Research Quarterly, 55(S1), S99–S107.https://doi.org/10.1002/rrq.343
Justice, L. M., & Jiang, H. (2023).Language is the basis of skilled reading comprehension.Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy.
Kim, Y. S. (2020a).Simple but not simplistic: The Simple View of Reading unpacked and expanded.The Reading League, May/June, 15–22.https://www.thereadingleague.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/TRLSimpleViewofReading.pdf
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020).Hierarchical and dynamic relations of language and cognitive skills to reading comprehension: Testing the direct and indirect effects model of reading (DIER).Journal of Educational Psychology, 112(4), 667–684.https://doi.org/10.1037/edu0000407
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023).Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Theoretical and Practical Landscape of Reading Development.Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy.https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf
Kim, Y. S. G., & Petscher, Y. (2021).Influences of individual, text, and assessment factors on listening comprehension.Annals of Dyslexia, 71(2), 218–237.https://doi.org/10.1007/s11881-021-00223-5
Pearson, P. D., Palincsar, A. S., Biancarosa, G., & Berman, A. I. (Eds.). (2020).Reaping the Rewards of the Reading for Understanding Initiative.National Academy of Education.https://naeducation.org/reaping-the-rewards-of-the-reading-for-understanding-initiative/

Sunday Jan 04, 2026
Episode 3 Literacy Listens - Why Comprehension Is So Complex
Sunday Jan 04, 2026
Sunday Jan 04, 2026
In this episode of Literacy Listens, Amber and Brian explore why reading comprehension is more complex than it often appears and why that complexity matters for instruction.
Building on the Simple View of Reading, they introduce Dr. Young Suk Grace Kim’s Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER) to show how multiple skills work together to support comprehension. Through classroom examples and clear explanations, the episode unpacks how word reading, listening comprehension, and a range of supporting skills interact to shape students’ understanding of text.
This conversation helps educators move beyond a linear view of reading development and toward a more accurate picture of comprehension as hierarchical, interactive, and dynamic.
Key Takeaways
What Is the DIER Model?
Expands on the Simple View of Reading
Identifies word reading and listening comprehension as the two proximal skills with a direct influence on reading comprehension
Shows how other skills contribute indirectly by strengthening those pillars
Emphasizes that comprehension development is hierarchical, interactive, and dynamic
Why This Complexity Matters
Reading comprehension is supported by multiple interrelated skills rather than a single ability
Word reading and listening comprehension have the most direct influence on comprehension
Skills such as vocabulary, background knowledge, executive function, and socio emotional factors support comprehension indirectly by shaping how students use language
Text reading fluency functions as a bridge, allowing attention to shift toward meaning making as decoding becomes more automatic
The influence of different skills changes over time, which has important implications for instruction
What’s Next
In the next episode, Amber and Brian zoom in on listening comprehension, one of the two central pillars in the DIER model, to explore how its many component skills work together.
Episode Resources
Website: https://www.listeningcomprehension.orgOrganization: Read Charlotte https://www.readcharlotte.org
Simplicity Meets Complexity: Expanding the Simple View (Kim, 2023)Publicly available chapter expanding the Simple View of Reading and illustrating the DIER framework.This chapter includes two visual representations of the DIER model referenced in this episode.https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED626851.pdf
Platforms: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube
Production Notes
Voices are AI generatedScript developed with AI technology supportContent reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
(All sources below come directly from the Read Charlotte Knowledge Base and informed this episode.)
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020). Simple but not simplistic: The Simple View of Reading unpacked and expanded. The Reading League Journal, May and June, 15 to 22.
Kim, Y. S. G. (2020). Toward integrative reading science: The Direct and Indirect Effects Model of Reading (DIER). Journal of Learning Disabilities, 53(6), 469 to 491. https://doi.org/10.1177/0022219420908239
Kim, Y. S. G., and Petscher, Y. (2021). Influences of individual, text, and assessment factors on listening comprehension. Annals of Dyslexia, 71(2), 218 to 237.

Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Episode 2 Literacy Listens From Shallow to Deep — What Good Comprehension Looks Like
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Welcome back to Literacy Listens, the podcast where we dive into all things listening comprehension and its powerful role in literacy development. In this episode, Amber and Brian, unpack what “deep” comprehension looks like. Using the example of student understanding of a classic tale, they contrast literal recall with deeper, inferential comprehension. Listeners will learn how to guide students from surface-level understanding into deeper waters, where they connect text to their own knowledge and experiences.
Key Takeaways
What is Deep Comprehension?
The ability to make inferences and connections beyond literal text
Involves understanding character motivations, emotions, and underlying meanings
Requires connecting text to prior knowledge and personal experiences
Why the Shallow/Deep Distinction Matters
Both shallow and deep comprehension are valid but serve different purposes
Deep comprehension allows students to access complex ideas and themes
Practical Classroom Applications
The "pond analogy": surface-level vs. beneath-the-surface understanding
Scaffold inferential thinking with sentence starters and modeling
Asking students "why" and "how" questions can prompt deep thinking
Read-alouds and discussions are useful vehicles to focus on comprehension-building
Episode Chapters:
0:00 - Intro music: "Behind the Curtain"
0:21 - Welcome and introduction to shallow vs. deep comprehension
1:20 - Contrasting shallow vs. deep student responses
2:30 - Understanding the comprehension continuum
3:45 - The pond analogy: Surface vs. depth understanding
4:20 - Practical strategies for moving beyond surface questions
5:30 - Scaffolding inferential thinking for young students
6:15 - Emphasizing process over "right answers"
7:00 - Reflective question for educators 7:30 - Preview of next episode on listening comprehension complexity
8:10 - Closing remarks and resources
8:42 - Outro music: "Behind the Curtain"
Resources:
Website: (https://www.listeningcomprehension.org/)
Organization: Read Charlotte (https://www.readcharlotte.org/)
Platforms: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts (Coming Soon), and YouTube
Production Notes
Voices: AI-generated
Script developed with AI technology support
Content reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References
Kim YG, Petscher Y. Influences of individual, text, and assessment factors on text/discourse comprehension in oral language (listening comprehension). Ann Dyslexia. 2021 Jul;71(2):218-237. doi: 10.1007/s11881-020-00208-8. Epub 2020 Nov 13. PMID: 33185848; PMCID: PMC8116353.
Kim, Y. G., & Petscher, Y. (2021). Influences of individual, text, and assessment factors on text/discourse comprehension in oral language (listening comprehension). Annals of Dyslexia, 71(2), 218–237.
Kim, Y.S. G., Wolters, A., & Lee, J.W. (2024). Reading and writing relations are not uniform: They differ by the linguistic grain size, developmental phase, and measurement. Review of Educational Research, 94(3), 311-342.
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy, 9-22. Available online here.

Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Episode 1 Literacy Listens Introduction to Listening Comprehension
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Thursday Nov 06, 2025
Literacy Listens - Episode 1: Introduction to Listening Comprehension: Explore the crucial role listening comprehension plays in literacy development. This episode highlights why this often-overlooked skill is one of the strongest predictors of reading success and how it allows children to engage with complex ideas long before they can decode written words.
Key Takeaways
What is Listening Comprehension?
The ability to understand spoken language at the discourse level
More than just isolated words or sentences - it's about making sense of connected language
Why Listening Comprehension Matters
One of the strongest predictors of reading success
Begins to develop before children can decode
Allows children to comprehend complex stories they hear long before they can read them
Around 2nd grade, listening comprehension becomes the best predictor of reading comprehension
Practical Classroom Applications
Treat read-alouds and class discussions as comprehension-building opportunities
Move beyond surface-level questions ("What happened?") to higher-level thinking questions
Ask "Why do you think the character did that?" or "How do you think she felt?"
Key Insight
Listening comprehension isn't just preparation for reading - it's part of the reading process itself. Teach word reading and listening comprehension together from the very beginning.
Episode Chapters/Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction and welcome
0:43 - Defining listening comprehension
1:30 - Why listening comprehension predicts reading success
2:15 - The developmental timeline
3:45 - Real-world example: The elephant story
5:00 - Cognitive processes in listening comprehension
6:15 - Practical classroom strategies
7:30 - Questioning techniques for deeper understanding
8:20 - Key takeaways for educators
Resources Mentioned
Website: listeningcomprehension.org
Organization:https://www.readcharlotte.org/
Platforms: Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube
About the Podcast
Literacy Listens breaks down big ideas from literacy research into practical, under-10-minute episodes. Each episode features research-backed insights and actionable takeaways for educators.
Production Notes
Voices: AI-generated
Script developed with AI technology support
Content reflects research curated by Read Charlotte
References:
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Hogan, T., Bridges, M. S., Justice, L. M., & Cain, K. (2011). Increasing higher level language skills to improve reading comprehension. Focus on Exceptional Children, 44(3): 1-20.
Justice, L.M. and Jiang, H. (2023). Language is the basis of skilled reading comprehension. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy, 131
Kim, Y.S. (2020). Simple but not simplistic: The simple view of reading unpacked and expanded. The Reading League, May/June, 15-22. Available online here.
Kim, Y. S. G. (2023). Simplicity Meets Complexity. Handbook on the Science of Early Literacy, 9-22.
Language and Reading Research Consortium, Jiang, H., & Logan, J. (2019). Improving reading comprehension in the primary grades: Mediated effects of a language-focused classroom intervention. Journal of Speech, Language, and Hearing Research, 62(8), 2812-2828.
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